Wednesday, October 2, 2019

SOME THOUGHTS ON “ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED” (Part 3)


This is the third and final part of this series on the topic of “Once Saved, Always Saved,” also known as “Unconditional Eternal Security.”  Parts 1 and 2 can be found here:



Old Testament

We’ve covered some New Testament verses in Part 1 and Part 2, demonstrating that OSAS is not biblical, so now let’s address a few Old Testament passages on this topic, as well.  Throughout Scripture, the responsibility of the individual to maintain his relationship with God is a common theme when God is dealing with His people:

Ezekiel 18:

21 - “But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die.

22 – All his transgressions which he has committed will not be remembered against him; because of his righteousness which he has practiced, he will live.

23 – Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord, rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?

24 – But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live?  All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die.” [NASV]

Ezekiel 33:13:

“When I say to the righteous he will surely live, and he so trusts in his righteousness that he commits iniquity, none of his righteous deeds will be remembered; but in that same iniquity of his which he has committed he will die.” [NASV]

Both of these passages remind me of the parable of the unrighteous servant (Matthew 18:21-35) who was forgiven an impossible debt, yet, when he forgot how his master had forgiven him and sinned against his fellow slave, his former debt was re-instated against him.

So we find this same principle in both the Old Testament and New Testament:  It is possible for a man who is righteous to turn away from God.   

What about the example of King Saul?  Was he not saved and then fell away?  In 1 Samuel 10:6, the prophet Samuel tells Saul that God’s Spirit would come upon him and that he will become “another man,” i.e., a different person.   Also, 1 Samuel 10:9 says that God changed Saul’s heart.  In other words, he was saved, he became a godly man.  And for a short time, he had the fruit of humility and obedience in his life to confirm his salvation.

But later on, Saul disobeys God (1 Samuel 13:1-13; 15:1-11), he became extremely jealous of David (1 Samuel 18:8-9) and chased him with hatred, murder, and rebellion in his heart (1 Samuel 23:7-27), was demon-possessed at times (1 Samuel 16:14, 23; 19:9-10), he consulted a witch (1 Samuel 28:7-24), and finally committed suicide (1 Samuel 31:1-4).  It was a gradual, but complete loss of salvation.

One would have to be blind to miss the fact that Saul was saved at one point in his life, but later fell away and defected from the faith.  We see that OSAS was not a fact in the Old Testament, and that Saul was a perfect example of that.

New Testament Examples

Ok, so what about examples in the New Testament of some, actually called by name, who had fallen away from grace and lost their salvation? 

The apostle Paul mentions Hymenaeas and Alexander, whom he had turned over to Satan, because they had “made shipwreck” of their faith. (1 Timothy 1:20)

He also mentions Hymenaeas and Philetus, who were teaching false doctrine and had “strayed concerning the truth,” and were “overthrowing the faith of some.” (2 Timothy 2:16-18)

Paul also said that Demas “has forsaken me” and has “loved this present world.” (2 Timothy 4:9-10)

Things were not looking well for these former Christians.

What About Judas?

Ok, now what about the most famous (or infamous) of all traitors?  Judas Iscariot, though he was an apostle, was called a devil (John 6:70-71) and the son of perdition (John 17:12).  Jesus, from the beginning, knew what Judas would do, but according to John 6:71, Judas “was later to betray Jesus.” [BSB] 

But was Judas ever saved?

Matthew 28:18-19 – According to over 20 Bible versions, in the Great Commission, Jesus said to go out and make disciples of all nations.  Therefore, a disciple is not just someone who professes, or is a wanna-be Christian, he is a true follower.

Our OSAS and Calvinist friends would agree that Jesus said to make disciples of all nations.  I think we all would admit that disciples are saved.

Luke 14:26-27 – Jesus helped to define what a disciple is.  The disciple must put Jesus above his mother, father, wife, children, etc., and he must bear his cross and follow Jesus.  No wanna-be followers here!  If Judas was a disciple at any point in his life, he was a true believer at that point.

According to Scripture, one would have to admit that Judas Iscariot was called a disciple (as well as an apostle), therefore saved (Matthew 10:1-4; Luke 6:13-15).  Luke 6:16 says he BECAME a traitor.  He was not one at first.  Jesus knew from the beginning what would happen, but it does not say that Judas WAS a traitor from the beginning.  He operated under the same Spirit as the other apostles when doing miracles.  But sadly, he eventually went from disciple, to apostle, to traitor and apostate.

John also mentions other (unnamed) disciples – “Many of Jesus’ disciples turned away from Him and no longer followed Him.” (John 6:59-61, 66)  They were disciples who apostatized just as Judas did. 

This certainly disproves “Once Saved, Always Saved.”

Verb Tenses

An important consideration that we haven’t looked at yet is to note that the grammar, itself, in these New Testament eternal security passages points away from the interpretations of our OSAS friends.  The verb tenses in the very contexts of some of these verses we studied indicate continual action, or continual faith.  This is an important truth that is missed by many of our English Bible translations.  For example:

John 5:24 – “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth [present tense, is hearing] My word, and believeth [is believing] on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

The Greek is actually saying that he that continually hears and continually believes in Jesus has everlasting life.

John 6:35 – “He that believeth [present tense, is believing] on Me shall never thirst.”

Again, it is a continual believing.

John 6:40 – “For My Father’s will is that everyone who looks [present participle, is looking] to the Son and believes [is believing] in Him shall have eternal life.”

Our life in Jesus is an ongoing belief.  If we stay with Him and continue with Him, THEN we will be saved.

I am providing a link to an article written by Steve Witzki of the Society of Evangelical Arminians, quoting literally dozens of scholars who acknowledge the use of these present tense verbs, including men like A. T. Robertson, Daniel Wallace, Gerald Hawthorne, Richard Lenski, B. F. Westcott, Robert Mounce, Julius Mantey, Kenneth Wuest, Dale Moody, and well-respected and highly influential Calvinist scholar James White, to name just a few.

All of these men acknowledge that, even in the eternal security verses, many of these verbs are in the present tense, indicating continual action.  Therefore, verifying what I’ve been saying in this series all along, i.e., that a believer must stay in Christ, lest he lose his right standing with God.

Here is the link:


“It Can’t Be Eternal”

Another argument from our OSAS friends goes like this:  “It can’t be eternal life if we can lose it – if we are able to lose it, it would be called ‘temporary life.’”

Those who say this are simply playing word games.  I have a question for them – was this gift of eternal life “eternal” before you received it?  Of course it was.  The “eternal-ness” of eternal life is not dependent on who has it or what we do with it.  Those who fall away are not changing eternal life into temporary life – they are actually swapping eternal life for eternal death!  So this gift of life itself is eternal, but not necessarily our possession of it.  Our possession of it can never change its nature.  It is eternal whether we get it or reject it.  So there is no substance to this “it can’t be eternal” argument.

 Four Types of People

Personally, concerning salvation and one’s destiny, I believe that there are four basic types of people:

   1) The person who, though he heard the gospel, is not interested in it and never will accept Jesus Christ.  He is self-centered and never concerned about spiritual things.  He ends up lost in Hell.

          2The person who comes to the edge of Christianity and may actually be interested in this lifestyle and its blessings.  He joins a church, calls himself a “Christian,” he seems to “fit in” with true believers for a time and may even be excited about this new life.  But what he experiences is a false conversion.  He’s not in it for the long haul.  Difficulties arise, maybe even a little persecution and he leaves it all behind.  It may have looked like it, but he was never truly saved.  This accounts for a large number of “Christians” today.  He, also, ends up in Hell.

    3) The person who gets saved and is a genuine believer.  He serves God faithfully, witnesses to others about Christ and even bears some fruit.  But eventually, something happens.  Perhaps a death in the family or some other tragic circumstance.  He blames God and maintains a certain amount of resentment.  After all, he’s thinking, “God could have prevented this tragedy.”  The resentment grows and grows until it is unmanageable…  Or maybe a divorce, loss of a high-paying job, or some other highly stressful situation comes about…  Perhaps it’s just a particular sin that he just can’t seem to let go…  It could be that he gets caught up in worldly pleasures that seem to overtake him, but he likes them too much to let go of them…  Or maybe he has nagging questions over something in the Bible that he just can’t understand.  He believes the Bible, but there seem to be some contradictions.  He starts to wonder if it really is the Word of God, after all.  He thinks, “Can I really trust God?”  Over time, his heart is gradually hardened and his love for God gets colder and colder.  It gets to the point where he doesn’t even care about the things of God anymore.  And it doesn’t even bother him that he doesn’t care.  He is so far from God.  Dangerously far.  He is now an apostate.  He had tasted of the heavenly gift and he had been a partaker of the Holy Spirit.  He is now a traitor to the God who was so gracious to him, and a deserter of Him who was his only hope.  He would have been better off if he’d never been saved at all.  In essence, he is saying that Jesus Christ is not sufficient to help him and that He is not worthy to be served.  That man is now subjecting Jesus Christ to an open shame (Hebrews 6:4-6).  This one too, ends up in Hell.

   4)  And finally, there is the person who gets saved, consistently produces the fruit of the Spirit, and serves God with all his heart, never looking back.  Although he is imperfect, this man heeds the warnings in Scripture about falling away and he maintains his faith, he continues in the faith.  His life is a surrendering to God and he continues trusting in the work and suffering of Jesus Christ on the cross.  He knows that the penalty for his (and everyone else’s) sins was paid there in full.  He is not trusting in his good works to be saved.  This is the one who makes it to Heaven.  He will enjoy the gift of eternal life.  And by the way, this is the only one for whom “Once Saved, Always Saved” is actually true.

You may have noticed that this list is roughly parallel to the parable of the sower (Matthew 13:3-8).  Now, I am not being dogmatic about the parallel between the two, but the list above does line up with real life and with the Scriptures.

People only get saved once.  You don’t get saved, lose your salvation, get saved again, lose it, etc., etc.  Losing your salvation (or rather, walking away from God) is not an overnight thing.  It is something that happens gradually, sometimes almost unnoticed.

Who Is a True Christian?

OSAS says that if a person falls away, he was never truly saved to begin with.  If that’s true, then how could anyone ever really know who is saved or not?  How do you know that your favorite teacher or pastor will not apostatize right before his death, “proving” that he was lost all along?  If OSAS is true, then on what basis can a pastor choose a faithful elder or deacon for his church (1 Timothy 3)?  Or how can a man choose a Christian wife to avoid being unequally yoked (2 Corinthians 6:14) if he can’t really tell if she is saved?

Nobody but God knows the heart of anyone with absolute certainty, but we can have sufficient confidence about someone’s spiritual status.  Otherwise, Jesus saying that we can “know them by their fruits” would be meaningless (Matthew 7:15-20). 

So, if someone claims to be a Christian and the fruit that he consistently bears is good fruit (especially when no one is looking), then it is possible, even likely, that he is saved at this point.  But if he later falls away and becomes an atheist, it does not necessarily mean that he was never saved.
   
Practical Implications

What are the practical implications of “Once Saved, Always Saved”?  What harm could possibly come from believing this doctrine?

Many will say that it is a license to sin.  They’ll say that when someone believes in OSAS, that person will say, “I am now saved, so I can live like I want to, sin as much as I want and never have to worry about falling away!  I am guaranteed Heaven, no matter what!”

Well, that’s not likely going to happen with someone who is truly saved, and our OSAS brothers and sisters are right to object to this argument...  Yet, there is a grain of truth in the “license to sin” mentality.  Complacency is often an all-too-real issue in the OSAS camp.  It can end up being a false security.  Remember, we are human beings and we do all have the sin nature.  And we do have a constant battle with temptation in one area or another.  The danger is that the time will come, perhaps when you may be at your weakest point, when the devil will put the idea in your head, “Hey, come on, you are eternally secure!  And this is just a little sin.  It’s no big deal.  You’re not going to lose your salvation over this!”  And maybe you give in.  Just this time.  Or maybe, a few more times.  And this process will slowly continue over a period of time, little by little, until you find yourself neck-deep in some sin.  At this point, you can either repent and get forgiveness and get back on track with God, or you can take the easier route and continue in that sin.  You can go on to become an apostate.  After all, “It’s no big deal,” right? 
    
Thankfully, many will not give in to this, but you will encounter this “license to sin” temptation somewhere down the line.  And it will become very attractive to many.  That’s just the way sin works.

Conclusion

Let us say firmly and in love that we see our OSAS brothers and sisters as exactly that… brothers and sisters, fellow Christians.  And I believe that it does neither side any good to be flippant in answering the objections of the other side.

We want to emphasize something once more.  Those of us who do not hold to “Once Saved, Always Saved” do NOT believe that one can “continue in the Lord” by trusting in his works.  It is not works that brought us salvation (Ephesians 2:8-10), and it is not works that keeps us saved (Galatians 3:3).  It is an attitude of continually trusting in the Savior’s work on the cross.

For the record, saying that OSAS is not true or biblical is NOT the same thing as saying that God has somehow failed to keep them when someone (who was once saved) has fallen away.  There is never failure on God’s part. 

My friends, apostasy is a reality, a very serious one, finalizing one’s eternity.  Apostasy is normally a long and gradual process.  It is difficult for a true Christian to fall away, but still possible.  God is gracious, and He will not give up easily on anyone (2 Peter 3:9), but neither will He force anyone to serve Him if that person insists on pulling away from Him.



12 comments:

  1. Hello Russell,

    Great article. I think that your treatment of the "eternal life" quibble is masterful and eloquently stated.

    Interestingly enough, I also wrote about that passage recording King Saul being "born again" last year:

    https://rationalchristiandiscernment.blogspot.com/2018/05/was-king-saul-born-again.html

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  2. Thanks Jessie,

    I'll be sure and check it out.

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  3. https://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2017/12/once-saved-always-saved.html

    https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B110315/is-eternal-life-always-eternal

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  4. Hi Russell, I’m a believer in “Once Saved Always Saved”.
    If the Lord Jesus Christ has given you a free gift of salvation, which is not by works but by grace alone lest any man may boast, He then cannot take that salvation away again. Otherwise He is called an Indian giver, and He wouldn't be trustworthy.
    Paul

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  5. Hello Paul,

    Thanks for your comment.

    I can understand why you say this, but the truth is that God does not “take away” our salvation. If we lose it, the case is always that WE walk away.

    Maybe I didn’t make it as clear as I should have in the articles. If not, I apologize.

    It is the former believer who would apostatize, who falls away, defects, forsakes Him, errs, wanders away, departs, turns aside, abandons the truth, goes astray, casts off his first faith, deserts Him, etc. It is no one’s fault but our own.

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  6. Hello Fine Sir,

    I would like you to read this article and the other two I linked back in October. They examine the faulty logic of your position. Eternal Security is biblical and you don't believe in eternal life:

    https://www.gotquestions.org/give-back-salvation.html

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    1. Anonymous,

      Concerning the link to the “Got Questions?” website:

      I really enjoy this website and agree with most of what they say, but I have never heard of someone “giving back” his salvation, though I can see someone “walking away” from salvation, as I explained in my articles. Apparently, the good folks at “Got Questions?” lean toward Calvinism, to which I do not ascribe. And their line of reasoning in this particular article does not at all deal with the many warning verses in the Old and New Testament, in which I dealt in my three-part series.

      Concerning the link to the “Grace To You” website:

      I also like the “Grace To You” ministry and again, I agree with very much of what they teach. But their Calvinist slant, which includes unconditional eternal security, I don’t agree with. The particular article you linked to mischaracterizes, I think, the conditional security doctrine. In the article, the author speaks of Christians “unwittingly forfeit[ing] their salvation,” being “consistently obedient to Jesus Christ,” “cooperating with God to perform good works,” “fail[ing] to perform,” “maintain[ing] good works,” and asserting that this is all just “another form of works righteousness.” But this is misrepresenting what I (and many others) believe about condition eternal security. In my three-part series, I mentioned Galatians 3:3, and I specifically said in part 2:

      “Our view is simple – we do indeed believe in the eternal security of the believer, AS LONG AS WE PERSIST IN OUR SALVATION, BY FAITH. According to Galatians 3:3, we are SAVED BY FAITH, and we CONTINUE IN FAITH. I want to stress again that our remaining in Christ is not about trusting in our works, but simply CONTINUING TO TRUST the person and work of Jesus Christ on the cross.”

      And this article from “Grace To You” also does not deal with the warning verses I mentioned above.

      Concerning Glenn Chatfield’s blog article:

      Again, I enjoy Glenn’s articles very much and he has a fascinating blog, and in the article you linked, he at least tries to deal with some of the warning verses. But I am not at all convinced by his arguments here, since I don’t see a balance between the OSAS interpretation of their unconditional eternal security verses and their interpretation of the warning verses. Glenn also mentions the concept of a person “never being saved in the first place.” Anonymous, if you also hold to that concept, you can go back and read part 2 of my articles and see that I dealt with that idea.

      Glenn and many others will say that those who DON’T hold to OSAS can never really KNOW that they will ultimately be saved because they could possibly fall away. But I don’t think that those who hold to OSAS have any more certainty than we do, since there are many “godly” people who have (apparently) served God for many years. Yet, sometimes these guys fall away at the end of their lives… and OSAS simply says that they were never saved to begin with. So, we can’t seem to really trust the super Christians, either, since they could possibly leave the faith at the end. And all you’re left with is someone who was never really saved when everybody “just knew” they really were.


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  7. Russell, you said, “If we lose it, the case is always that WE walk away.”

    Not so; You can’t lose it !
    Remember, it’s a free gift of God and it does not depend on works.
    Yes you can walk away, or backsliding, or even denying the Lord Jesus Christ, but you cannot be dying again once you have received that life, remember it’s a free gift of LIFE from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    I think you have been very clear in your post and you don’t need to apologise, and you have done a good job, I just thought to throw in a point.

    Look, It doesn't matter what one might do, a free gift is a free gift of God and it doesn’t depend upon works or performance. If it were not so, then His gift is absolutely worthless and He would be untrustworthy.

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  8. Anonymous,
    Thanks for your link, and I believe it.
    Remember I said in my first comment that I believe in “Once Saved Always Always Saved”.
    What makes you think that I don’t believe in eternal life ?

    I have received from my Father the Lord Jesus Christ eternal life and He will never ever take that life from me, even if I would turn away from My Father the Lord Jesus Christ.

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  9. Hey Russell,

    How would you explain a text such as Hebrews 10:17, which states God remembers our sins no more? If people lose salvation, does that mean He holds sins committed against Him that were once forgiven?

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  10. Hello again Jesse,

    First, I want to apologize for taking way too long to get back to you and to respond to your question. I’ve been super busy, and I don’t check my responses as often as I should.

    But concerning your question, the short answer is “yes.” I can only go back to what I said up above. When it says that God remembers our sin no more, it means that He doesn’t “remember them AGAINST US” anymore. He is God, and He can’t actually “forget” something, since He knows all things.

    This is the reason that He can once again hold them against us, if we fall away from Him or reject Him. They are simply re-instated, which is clearly brought out in the passages in Ezekiel above and in the unrighteous servant passage in Matthew 18. He has the power to do that, but He won’t re-instate those sins - UNLESS we reject His grace.

    Maybe that doesn’t answer your question satisfactorily, and if not, please let me know and I’ll try to elaborate.

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  11. Hi Russell,

    Yes, please do elaborate. I am confused. How can previously committed sins be "reinstated" when they are forgiven and removed from us as "far as the east and to the west" (Psalm 103:12-16)? How would you deal with a text such as Ephesians 1:13-14? Here is a commentary on that passage:

    [Ephesians] 1:13 Sealed, marked as God's property and assured of His protection. (Cf. 4:30; 2 Co 1:22)

    [Ephesians] 1:14 Guarantee, literally "down payment," "first installment," which in ancient times was a substantial portion of the whole.

    Martin Franzmann and Walter H. Roehrs, Concordia Self-study Commentary [commentary on Ephesians], p. 187

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